Comments on: Converting your WordPress and Mediawiki data into RDF on-the-fly http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/04/24/converting-your-wordpress-and-mediawiki-data-into-rdf-on-the-fly/ Tue, 06 Jul 2010 06:54:51 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Laurent SJ http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/04/24/converting-your-wordpress-and-mediawiki-data-into-rdf-on-the-fly/comment-page-1/#comment-7193 Laurent SJ Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:26:37 +0000 http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/04/24/converting-your-wordpress-and-mediawiki-data-into-rdf-on-the-fly/#comment-7193 Giovanni has it on a T. ` At such an early stage in the era of RDF, Propagation and reproduction of semantic data inside this wild wild web is what matters most, not just creating infanticide rdf. Secondly, RDF, just like any other semantic format/language, needs to be generated effortlessly, in a stealth fashion, and as your rightly point, using popular tools. Obviously your Wordpress plugin could prove a godsend in that direction. However, I've still got to get my head around this wonderful OpenLink Virtuoso, and it ain't the easiest of tasks. Bon Courage LSJ Giovanni has it on a T. `
At such an early stage in the era of RDF, Propagation and reproduction of semantic data inside this wild wild web is what matters most, not just creating infanticide rdf.

Secondly, RDF, just like any other semantic format/language, needs to be generated effortlessly, in a stealth fashion, and as your rightly point, using popular tools.

Obviously your Wordpress plugin could prove a godsend in that direction.
However, I’ve still got to get my head around this wonderful OpenLink Virtuoso, and it ain’t the easiest of tasks.

Bon Courage

LSJ

]]> By: Fred http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/04/24/converting-your-wordpress-and-mediawiki-data-into-rdf-on-the-fly/comment-page-1/#comment-6734 Fred Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:42:18 +0000 http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/04/24/converting-your-wordpress-and-mediawiki-data-into-rdf-on-the-fly/#comment-6734 Hi Giovanni! Thanks for precise that people should notify such services so that web services can find their localization on the Web. Take care, Salutations, Fred Hi Giovanni!

Thanks for precise that people should notify such services so that web services can find their localization on the Web.

Take care,

Salutations,

Fred

]]> By: Fred http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/04/24/converting-your-wordpress-and-mediawiki-data-into-rdf-on-the-fly/comment-page-1/#comment-6731 Fred Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:22:42 +0000 http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/04/24/converting-your-wordpress-and-mediawiki-data-into-rdf-on-the-fly/#comment-6731 Hi Uldis! Yeah sure you are right. My examples are possibly not that good, however the idea was to show that RDF could be make from any relational database sources from the Views (so, looking at the semantic web in a lens), and that, even if no plugin api is possible for a certain system :) But all this is arguable, for example, personally, it would take me much less time to map any system using a RDF View over a remote rdb than learning all the APi to develop plugins. But yes, you need virtuoso commercial edition to do that that straighforward. Anyway, there are so many nthigns to create RDF data, people have choice, and it is what count at the end :) Take care, Fred Hi Uldis!

Yeah sure you are right. My examples are possibly not that good, however the idea was to show that RDF could be make from any relational database sources from the Views (so, looking at the semantic web in a lens), and that, even if no plugin api is possible for a certain system :)

But all this is arguable, for example, personally, it would take me much less time to map any system using a RDF View over a remote rdb than learning all the APi to develop plugins. But yes, you need virtuoso commercial edition to do that that straighforward. Anyway, there are so many nthigns to create RDF data, people have choice, and it is what count at the end :)

Take care,

Fred

]]> By: Uldis Bojars http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/04/24/converting-your-wordpress-and-mediawiki-data-into-rdf-on-the-fly/comment-page-1/#comment-6724 Uldis Bojars Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:14:55 +0000 http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/04/24/converting-your-wordpress-and-mediawiki-data-into-rdf-on-the-fly/#comment-6724 Not convinced about some of the arguments you mention. Having developed the SIOC plugin for WordPress I can say that, yes, it takes some time in development, but so do RDF Views. Once developed, though, such a plugin just works. . What is easier - installing one single plugin for WordPress or installing a custom upgraded version of WordPress? . In summary: Virtuoso is a larger architecture that enables SPARQL queries, more power at a price of installing custom software. SIOC plugin is a pragmatic solution that aims to put blogs on the Web of Data and lets users of data to do all the fancy stuff. . Both are useful and possibly complement each other :) Not convinced about some of the arguments you mention. Having developed the SIOC plugin for WordPress I can say that, yes, it takes some time in development, but so do RDF Views. Once developed, though, such a plugin just works.
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What is easier – installing one single plugin for WordPress or installing a custom upgraded version of WordPress?
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In summary: Virtuoso is a larger architecture that enables SPARQL queries, more power at a price of installing custom software. SIOC plugin is a pragmatic solution that aims to put blogs on the Web of Data and lets users of data to do all the fancy stuff.
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Both are useful and possibly complement each other :)

]]> By: Giovanni Tummarello http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/04/24/converting-your-wordpress-and-mediawiki-data-into-rdf-on-the-fly/comment-page-1/#comment-6659 Giovanni Tummarello Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:32:32 +0000 http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/04/24/converting-your-wordpress-and-mediawiki-data-into-rdf-on-the-fly/#comment-6659 Let other know your data! Once you jave your RDF view or dump retrievable resolving a URL, make sure other people know that it exists so it can be indexed and information can be meshed with other applications. To do so PingTheSemanticWeb.com (they will then put your page in a RSS list of "updated RDF") and or ping Sindice.com Sindice will index your rdf file so that your RDF location (URL) will be returned to those that request information sources about the concepts (URI) you talk about. Using Sindice simple restful API, clients can then integrate your infortmation for whatever purpose. Giovanni Let other know your data!

Once you jave your RDF view or dump retrievable resolving a URL, make sure other people know that it exists so it can be indexed and information can be meshed with other applications.

To do so PingTheSemanticWeb.com (they will then put your page in a RSS list of “updated RDF”) and or ping Sindice.com

Sindice will index your rdf file so that your RDF location (URL) will be returned to those that request information sources about the concepts (URI) you talk about. Using Sindice simple restful API, clients can then integrate your infortmation for whatever purpose.

Giovanni

]]> By: Still no FOAF File? « About the semantic social web http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/04/24/converting-your-wordpress-and-mediawiki-data-into-rdf-on-the-fly/comment-page-1/#comment-6316 Still no FOAF File? « About the semantic social web Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:27:54 +0000 http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/04/24/converting-your-wordpress-and-mediawiki-data-into-rdf-on-the-fly/#comment-6316 [...] A well done service to navigate FOAF Files is FOAFer - please compare the results with those from Tabulator - using your own FOAF-File ;-). (Or if you´re a DB-Admin look at this post!) [...] [...] A well done service to navigate FOAF Files is FOAFer – please compare the results with those from Tabulator – using your own FOAF-File ;-) . (Or if you´re a DB-Admin look at this post!) [...]

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