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		<title>By: Blogabriel &#187; Traduction française : How to Publish Linked Data on the Web?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blogabriel &#187; Traduction française : How to Publish Linked Data on the Web?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 23:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] présentes dans le projet communautaire W3C SWEO Linking Open Data, par exemple, Geonames, DBpedia, Musicbrainz, dbtune ou RDF Book Mashup. Les deux principaux avantages à utiliser des URI à partir de ces [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] présentes dans le projet communautaire W3C SWEO Linking Open Data, par exemple, Geonames, DBpedia, Musicbrainz, dbtune ou RDF Book Mashup. Les deux principaux avantages à utiliser des URI à partir de ces [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Semantic Web Gang &#187; Blog Archive &#187; April 2008: The Semantic Web Gang discuss a Wikipedia for Data</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Semantic Web Gang &#187; Blog Archive &#187; April 2008: The Semantic Web Gang discuss a Wikipedia for Data</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Linked Data are the roots for the Future Web</title>
		<link>http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/05/22/browsing-musicbrainzs-dataset-via-uri-dereferencing/comment-page-1/#comment-153975</link>
		<dc:creator>Linked Data are the roots for the Future Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] DBpedia (&#8221;DBpedia Mobile&#8221; now available on mobile/cell phones via a map mashup), Umbel, Musicbrainz, Geonames and many more in the linked data [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] DBpedia (&#8221;DBpedia Mobile&#8221; now available on mobile/cell phones via a map mashup), Umbel, Musicbrainz, Geonames and many more in the linked data [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
		<link>http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/05/22/browsing-musicbrainzs-dataset-via-uri-dereferencing/comment-page-1/#comment-20859</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 07:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi !

Thank you for responding and I&#039;m sorry for not replying, but I&#039;ve been too busy the last weeks.

Have you, by any chance, produced the RDF dump meanwhile?

I have checked on Virtuoso server and I&#039;m amazed by its features, but the whole process is a little tangled and I doubt that it will work without problems on my Vista.

I will sustain my thesis and show the application in few days and I have no alternatives, but to use dataset from SemanticBible.

best regards !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi !</p>
<p>Thank you for responding and I&#8217;m sorry for not replying, but I&#8217;ve been too busy the last weeks.</p>
<p>Have you, by any chance, produced the RDF dump meanwhile?</p>
<p>I have checked on Virtuoso server and I&#8217;m amazed by its features, but the whole process is a little tangled and I doubt that it will work without problems on my Vista.</p>
<p>I will sustain my thesis and show the application in few days and I have no alternatives, but to use dataset from SemanticBible.</p>
<p>best regards !</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/05/22/browsing-musicbrainzs-dataset-via-uri-dereferencing/comment-page-1/#comment-16217</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 14:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Adrian!

Yeah sure! There are a couple of possibilities.

You can wait a couple of weeks so that we release the RDF dump produced by this RDF View.

Or you can download the opensource version of Virtuoso here:

http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/wiki/main/Main/OdsVOS

then you download and install the postgre server of musicbrainz.org.

then you create a sql dump of the MBZ database and import it into virtuoso.

Then you install the Musicbrainz RDF View so that you can generate all the triples, send queries etc. 

Finally you connect your .NET application to Virtuoso via ODBC.

:)

Tell me if you have any questions related to that.


Take care,


Fred</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Adrian!</p>
<p>Yeah sure! There are a couple of possibilities.</p>
<p>You can wait a couple of weeks so that we release the RDF dump produced by this RDF View.</p>
<p>Or you can download the opensource version of Virtuoso here:</p>
<p><a href="http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/wiki/main/Main/OdsVOS" rel="nofollow">http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/wiki/main/Main/OdsVOS</a></p>
<p>then you download and install the postgre server of musicbrainz.org.</p>
<p>then you create a sql dump of the MBZ database and import it into virtuoso.</p>
<p>Then you install the Musicbrainz RDF View so that you can generate all the triples, send queries etc. </p>
<p>Finally you connect your .NET application to Virtuoso via ODBC.<br />
 <img src='http://fgiasson.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Tell me if you have any questions related to that.</p>
<p>Take care,</p>
<p>Fred</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
		<link>http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/05/22/browsing-musicbrainzs-dataset-via-uri-dereferencing/comment-page-1/#comment-15672</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 21:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi !

I&#039;m working for my university graduation project on a RDF datastore using SQL Relational Databases (.NET   MS SQL Server).

The project consists of a semantic browser of the RDF store and of a basic search engine using full-text over literals (not SPARQL).

I&#039;m very interested in the complete(or at least some parts of it, that can be linked) RDF dataset containing music ontology (more important are RDF assertions about artists, tracks...etc), but i cannot find it anywhere.

I have already in my db the RDF dataset from SemanticBible.org, but I need some huge data to test my storage system and the datasets from Leigh University has almost no logic(basically there are thousands of Mock values, used to test the speed of SPARQL processors).
I think that this Music Ontology RDF Dataset would work best for my project, because it has good logic and music is part of our life.

Can you help me regarding this issue ?!

best regards, Adrian!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi !</p>
<p>I&#8217;m working for my university graduation project on a RDF datastore using SQL Relational Databases (.NET   MS SQL Server).</p>
<p>The project consists of a semantic browser of the RDF store and of a basic search engine using full-text over literals (not SPARQL).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very interested in the complete(or at least some parts of it, that can be linked) RDF dataset containing music ontology (more important are RDF assertions about artists, tracks&#8230;etc), but i cannot find it anywhere.</p>
<p>I have already in my db the RDF dataset from SemanticBible.org, but I need some huge data to test my storage system and the datasets from Leigh University has almost no logic(basically there are thousands of Mock values, used to test the speed of SPARQL processors).<br />
I think that this Music Ontology RDF Dataset would work best for my project, because it has good logic and music is part of our life.</p>
<p>Can you help me regarding this issue ?!</p>
<p>best regards, Adrian!</p>
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		<title>By: Where are the Road Signs for the Structured Web? &#187; AI3:::Adaptive Information</title>
		<link>http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/05/22/browsing-musicbrainzs-dataset-via-uri-dereferencing/comment-page-1/#comment-13882</link>
		<dc:creator>Where are the Road Signs for the Structured Web? &#187; AI3:::Adaptive Information</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 22:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] what is also becoming clear, with the massive new datastores of DBpedia, Wikipedia3, the HCLC demo, Musicbrainz, Freebase, and the Encyclopedia of Life only being some of the most recent and visible [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] what is also becoming clear, with the massive new datastores of DBpedia, Wikipedia3, the HCLC demo, Musicbrainz, Freebase, and the Encyclopedia of Life only being some of the most recent and visible [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Yves Raimond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yves Raimond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 14:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Francois!

I am working on such a small app, that scan your music collection, and associates all your audio items to zitgist&#039; URI, using the MBZ fingerprinting/identification web services.

The association is done through the 
mo:availableAs property

You can take a look at this blog post:
http://blog.dbtune.org/post/2007/05/22/Music-Ontology-1st-project-idea

which gives some preliminary ideas about this.

Best,
Yves</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Francois!</p>
<p>I am working on such a small app, that scan your music collection, and associates all your audio items to zitgist&#8217; URI, using the MBZ fingerprinting/identification web services.</p>
<p>The association is done through the<br />
mo:availableAs property</p>
<p>You can take a look at this blog post:<br />
<a href="http://blog.dbtune.org/post/2007/05/22/Music-Ontology-1st-project-idea" rel="nofollow">http://blog.dbtune.org/post/2007/05/22/Music-Ontology-1st-project-idea</a></p>
<p>which gives some preliminary ideas about this.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Yves</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/05/22/browsing-musicbrainzs-dataset-via-uri-dereferencing/comment-page-1/#comment-12322</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 12:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Francois!</p>
<p>[quote post="810"]Let&#8217;s say that I want to tag a file &#8220;all_you_need_is_love.mp&#8221; somewhere on my hard disk (or wherever) with &#8220;The Beatles&#8221;. That is: produce some piece of RDF data containing a triple that looks like:<br />
xxx/all_you_need_is_love.mp3, ex:tag, Musicbrainz&#8217;s URI of &#8220;The Beatles&#8221;[/quote]</p>
<p>Well, to create such assertion about musical things, I would refer you to the music ontology for more information <a href="http://musicontology.com" rel="nofollow">http://musicontology.com</a></p>
<p>[quote post="810"]How can I discover that the URI of &#8220;The Beatles&#8221; is<br />
<a href="http://zitgist.com/music/band/b10bbbfc-cf9e-42e0-be17-e2c3e1d2600d/quote" rel="nofollow">http://zitgist.com/music/band/b10bbbfc-cf9e-42e0-be17-e2c3e1d2600d/quote</a></p>
<p>Well, this is all about Zitgist <img src='http://fgiasson.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  For now, only the data is available to everyone. So if you want to do something with it, go for it, you have access to the data.</p>
<p>But in a near future, <a href="http://zitgist.com" rel="nofollow">http://zitgist.com</a> will enable you to search this musical database, along with many others. Later today I will publish a couple of SPARQL queries that you will be able to hack to search what you want. In the mean time, I would suggest you to subscribe to get a Zitgist account at: <a href="http://zitgist.com" rel="nofollow">http://zitgist.com</a></p>
<p>[quote post="810"]We want to remove any ambiguity from our statements by using URIs that precisely identify things, (and that&#8217;s a good and important point).[/quote]</p>
<p>Well yeah it is the goal! BUt at the same time, I think that only relying on URIs to do that is sort of naive. Anyway, it is certainly a good start.</p>
<p>[quote post="810"]But it makes our life sometimes difficult &#8211; with RDF, &#8220;we *can* say anything about anything&#8221;,[/quote]</p>
<p>Yeah, and it is why people start to think to develop best practices to try to manage the powerful descriptiveness of the RDF (with big power come along big responsibilities <img src='http://fgiasson.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ). At least, this is something I talk about since a long time.</p>
<p>I think that making it easier to write statements is important, and that it would be very useful if people producing RDF data such as you do were providing ways to easily (and automatically) convert words to concepts identified by URIs.</p>
<p>A good try in that direction is the YAGO ontology: <a href="http://www.mpi-inf.mpg.de/~suchanek/downloads/yago/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mpi-inf.mpg.de/~suchanek/downloads/yago/</a></p>
<p>Take care,</p>
<p>Fred</p>
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		<title>By: Francois-Paul Servant</title>
		<link>http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/05/22/browsing-musicbrainzs-dataset-via-uri-dereferencing/comment-page-1/#comment-12285</link>
		<dc:creator>Francois-Paul Servant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 09:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a note about your &quot;Leave a Reply&quot; form:it seems that &quot;plus&quot; signs in a post disappear when submitting the form (they  are visible in the preview). For instance, I had written:
http://sitgist.com/music/search?s=the&#039;PLUS&#039;Beatles

fps</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a note about your &#8220;Leave a Reply&#8221; form:it seems that &#8220;plus&#8221; signs in a post disappear when submitting the form (they  are visible in the preview). For instance, I had written:<br />
<a href="http://sitgist.com/music/search?s=the&#039;PLUS&#039;Beatles" rel="nofollow">http://sitgist.com/music/search?s=the&#039;PLUS&#039;Beatles</a></p>
<p>fps</p>
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