Comments on: Describing Documents, Articles, Series, Volumes and Conferences using the Bibliographic Ontology http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/08/15/describing-documents-articles-series-volumes-and-conferences-using-the-bibliographic-ontology/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:27:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Fred http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/08/15/describing-documents-articles-series-volumes-and-conferences-using-the-bibliographic-ontology/comment-page-1/#comment-51235 Fred Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:23:30 +0000 http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/08/15/describing-documents-articles-series-volumes-and-conferences-using-the-bibliographic-ontology/#comment-51235 Hi Tony, [quote post="830"]Curious though as to why PRISM gets no mention especially for dealing with enumerated fields and that “dcterms” andjavascript:void(0); newly invented “bibo” elements are used.[/quote] Well, about PRISM: we agreed that we haven't anything to reuse from it considering its goals and current state. (refers to the wiki and the mailing list for the full story). About DCTERMS instead of DC: the thing is that DCTERMS have been formalized in RDFS lately. The new DCTERMS are nearly crystalized, so we should expect them to replace DC I think (even if it is clearly not the case atm). It is a long term decision, and anyway, it is not a real issue since all these new DCTERMS are subclasses of the old DC vocabulary (example: dcterms:title subclassOf dc:title). [quote post="830"]Seems very odd especially as the ontology is mix and match from various namespaces, and that “dc” and “prism” is routinely used by journals publishers in RSS feeds and HTML metadata includes.[/quote] Well, the only ontology we reuse for real bibliographic description is DCTERMS, other ontologies are used to describe authors, publishers (organization) and events (conferences). Thanks for taking time asking these questions, hope my answers were what you were expecting from me. Take care, Salutations, Fred Hi Tony,

[quote post="830"]Curious though as to why PRISM gets no mention especially for dealing with enumerated fields and that “dcterms” andjavascript:void(0); newly invented “bibo” elements are used.[/quote]

Well, about PRISM: we agreed that we haven’t anything to reuse from it considering its goals and current state. (refers to the wiki and the mailing list for the full story).

About DCTERMS instead of DC: the thing is that DCTERMS have been formalized in RDFS lately. The new DCTERMS are nearly crystalized, so we should expect them to replace DC I think (even if it is clearly not the case atm). It is a long term decision, and anyway, it is not a real issue since all these new DCTERMS are subclasses of the old DC vocabulary (example: dcterms:title subclassOf dc:title).

[quote post="830"]Seems very odd especially as the ontology is mix and match from various namespaces, and that “dc” and “prism” is routinely used by journals publishers in RSS feeds and HTML metadata includes.[/quote]

Well, the only ontology we reuse for real bibliographic description is DCTERMS, other ontologies are used to describe authors, publishers (organization) and events (conferences).

Thanks for taking time asking these questions, hope my answers were what you were expecting from me.

Take care,

Salutations,

Fred

]]> By: Tony Hammond http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/08/15/describing-documents-articles-series-volumes-and-conferences-using-the-bibliographic-ontology/comment-page-1/#comment-51017 Tony Hammond Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:16:17 +0000 http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/08/15/describing-documents-articles-series-volumes-and-conferences-using-the-bibliographic-ontology/#comment-51017 Hi Frederick: Very interesting bib bontology this. Curious though as to why PRISM gets no mention especially for dealing with enumerated fields and that "dcterms" and newly invented "bibo" elements are used. Seems very odd especially as the ontology is mix and match from various namespaces, and that "dc" and "prism" is routinely used by journals publishers in RSS feeds and HTML metadata includes. Cheers, Tony Hi Frederick:

Very interesting bib bontology this. Curious though as to why PRISM gets no mention especially for dealing with enumerated fields and that “dcterms” and newly invented “bibo” elements are used.

Seems very odd especially as the ontology is mix and match from various namespaces, and that “dc” and “prism” is routinely used by journals publishers in RSS feeds and HTML metadata includes.

Cheers,

Tony

]]> By: The Open Library in RDF using The Bibliographic Ontology at Frederick Giasson’s Weblog http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/08/15/describing-documents-articles-series-volumes-and-conferences-using-the-bibliographic-ontology/comment-page-1/#comment-42113 The Open Library in RDF using The Bibliographic Ontology at Frederick Giasson’s Weblog Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:47:48 +0000 http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2007/08/15/describing-documents-articles-series-volumes-and-conferences-using-the-bibliographic-ontology/#comment-42113 [...] the Open Library data and enable us to query, at the same time, the Open Library’s data, the data about the articles I wrote, eventually the Zotero citations if they choose to use BIBO, [...] [...] the Open Library data and enable us to query, at the same time, the Open Library’s data, the data about the articles I wrote, eventually the Zotero citations if they choose to use BIBO, [...]

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